I love these jeans! I love that that barrel and wide leg and horseshoe have finally arrived. It's like my people finally arrived at the party! But these are sublime. More streamlined yet baggy enough to make me happy. I went up a size as recommended for a more relaxed fit. Perfection! The weight of the denim is mid and not stiff at all I love it. A little drape, not too much. They sit low on me since I went up a size which I find the most comfy way to wear denim.